Composer of The Wiz Charlie Smalls Explains Why “Wh**e People” Have Soul


In an episode of the television show “The Monkees” explains why Wh**e people have soul.

Davy Jones of the Monkees: Hey Charlie, Charlie listen…listen. I wanna ask you a question man. Oh, first of all let me introduce you to the people. This is Charlie Smalls, he’s a friend of mine from New York and now we’re out in California and we’re writing songs together. This is one of our first songs, right?

Charlie Smalls: Right

DJ: Tell me…why don’t I have soul? You’ve known me all these years. Why don’t I have soul?

CS: You do have soul but I have to explain it to you…uh…rhythmically. That’s the only way I can really talk is in music. Your soul would emanate on the accented beats 1 and 3. Where my soul emanates on the accented beats 2 and 4. And to give you a good example of that The Beatles…

DJ: Yeah

CS: Play hard and funky on 1 and 3.

DJ: (Laughs) funky?

CS: But Really. Ringo plays the hardest 1 and 3 I’ve ever heard in my life. Now if you clap four I’ll show you. 1-2-3-4 (they clap together)

CS & DJ: (Clapping together) 1-2-3-4

DJ: (Counts) 1-2-3-4

CS: Uhn-pat-uhn uhn-pat uhn-pat-uhn uhn-pat uhn-pat-uhn uhn-pat

CS: That’s…

DJ: Yeah right.

CS: …the whole thing….as long as it swings its soulful

DJ: That’s 1 and 3 right

CS: Yeah…right

CS: Now an example of 2 and 4 would be more of a Motown sound

DJ: 1 and 3…1 and 3 is like wh*te soul…right?

CS: Right, exactly…

DJ: and two and four is the motown…

CS: 2 and 4 is motown soul brothers so you know (turns to look at cigar store indian behind them) give me five over hear…uh

DJ: laughs

CS: It would be the motown soul…clap again (they clap together) 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4

DJ: (counts) 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4

CS: uhn-Bop-ski dun dun-bop
uhn-bop-ski dun dun-bop
uhn-bop-ski dun be dun-bop

DJ: Oh yeah the accent now is on the 2 and the 4

CS: I almost got carried away excuse me I’m sorry

DJ: Laughs

CS: but you can do the same thing if you take a two soul which is emanating from Brazil and you play (shakes percussion can) uhn-be dooby dooby uhn-be dooby dooby

CS: One

CS & DJ: (together) Two uhn-dooby dooby One uhn-dooby dooby-Two

DJ: One Two…yeah right

CS: (hands can to Davy and starts playing the piano) right

CS: (inaudible) these songs together…come up with the same toon

DJ: yeah… right

CS: You wanna try it again? Let’s sing

DJ: I know a girl…her name is Ann…she is the girl that I dream of…she give me love I never knew…she show you how to love me too

CS: la-la-lala-la-lala-la

DJ: It’s all the same right? So everybody’s got soul?

CS: Everybody’s got soul

DJ: It’s just a different kind of soul

CS: Swing it and you got soul

DJ: A 1 and 3 and a 2 and 4…this is a 1 and 2

CS: Everybody swings

DJ: Hey!!!

CS & DJ: (together) la-lala-la




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