Composer of The Wiz Charlie Smalls Explains Why “Wh**e People” Have Soul


In an episode of the television show “The Monkees” explains why Wh**e people have soul.

Davy Jones of the Monkees: Hey Charlie, Charlie listen…listen. I wanna ask you a question man. Oh, first of all let me introduce you to the people. This is Charlie Smalls, he’s a friend of mine from New York and now we’re out in California and we’re writing songs together. This is one of our first songs, right?

Charlie Smalls: Right

DJ: Tell me…why don’t I have soul? You’ve known me all these years. Why don’t I have soul?

CS: You do have soul but I have to explain it to you…uh…rhythmically. That’s the only way I can really talk is in music. Your soul would emanate on the accented beats 1 and 3. Where my soul emanates on the accented beats 2 and 4. And to give you a good example of that The Beatles…

DJ: Yeah

CS: Play hard and funky on 1 and 3.

DJ: (Laughs) funky?

CS: But Really. Ringo plays the hardest 1 and 3 I’ve ever heard in my life. Now if you clap four I’ll show you. 1-2-3-4 (they clap together)

CS & DJ: (Clapping together) 1-2-3-4

DJ: (Counts) 1-2-3-4

CS: Uhn-pat-uhn uhn-pat uhn-pat-uhn uhn-pat uhn-pat-uhn uhn-pat

CS: That’s…

DJ: Yeah right.

CS: …the whole thing….as long as it swings its soulful

DJ: That’s 1 and 3 right

CS: Yeah…right

CS: Now an example of 2 and 4 would be more of a Motown sound

DJ: 1 and 3…1 and 3 is like wh*te soul…right?

CS: Right, exactly…

DJ: and two and four is the motown…

CS: 2 and 4 is motown soul brothers so you know (turns to look at cigar store indian behind them) give me five over hear…uh

DJ: laughs

CS: It would be the motown soul…clap again (they clap together) 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4

DJ: (counts) 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4

CS: uhn-Bop-ski dun dun-bop
uhn-bop-ski dun dun-bop
uhn-bop-ski dun be dun-bop

DJ: Oh yeah the accent now is on the 2 and the 4

CS: I almost got carried away excuse me I’m sorry

DJ: Laughs

CS: but you can do the same thing if you take a two soul which is emanating from Brazil and you play (shakes percussion can) uhn-be dooby dooby uhn-be dooby dooby

CS: One

CS & DJ: (together) Two uhn-dooby dooby One uhn-dooby dooby-Two

DJ: One Two…yeah right

CS: (hands can to Davy and starts playing the piano) right

CS: (inaudible) these songs together…come up with the same toon

DJ: yeah… right

CS: You wanna try it again? Let’s sing

DJ: I know a girl…her name is Ann…she is the girl that I dream of…she give me love I never knew…she show you how to love me too

CS: la-la-lala-la-lala-la

DJ: It’s all the same right? So everybody’s got soul?

CS: Everybody’s got soul

DJ: It’s just a different kind of soul

CS: Swing it and you got soul

DJ: A 1 and 3 and a 2 and 4…this is a 1 and 2

CS: Everybody swings

DJ: Hey!!!

CS & DJ: (together) la-lala-la




By Nnamdi Azikiwe

The Mhotep Corporation uses its Keyamsha The Awakening brand to heighten perceptions and expand awareness. By producing content that engages, entertains and educates we create value for value relationships with our audience for mutual benefit. Mhotep is derived from the name of the architect and builder of the first pyramid in Kemet, so-called ancient Egypt. I formed the Mhotep Corporation in 2003 to produce and distribute 3D animation videos based on traditional African stories. Since then it has evolved to being a media production company including books. In a previous life I worked as a systems analyst developing solutions for government and multinational organizations. Born and educated in Washington, D.C. I have traveled to several places including Haiti, the Bahamas, Mexico, Canada, Nigeria (several times), Ethiopia (several times), Benin, Togo, and South Africa. I am married with three children.

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